From [email protected] Mon Feb 6 21:49:16 CST 1995
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>- Savor these lyrics, for in them we get an unacustomedly undefended
I suspect that the songwriter has mythologized himself via the composition
of the song, so that the events take on a much more literary aura than
they might if he were writing more self-referentially (cf. "We Can Work
It Out" and "I'm Looking Through You"). And as a result, it's far easier
for the author to open the heart of his lyrical persona, precisely because
of that distance.
>- Working out this kind of thing in public surely was never Macca's
Paul's well-known distress over Jane may well have been the catalyst for
this song, but just as the singer is not necessarily Paul, I'd venture
to suggest that the lady is not Jane. In fact, the composer has imbued
this lyrical lady with more indifference, even cruelty, than historical
record suggests was present in Jane. And since the focus of the song's
pain is on the male singer, it's entirely in keeping that "he" should
exhibit greater sensitivity as well as more heart-felt pain than Paul
was known to express.
Compare "For No One" with the mystery woman (also unknown to us, since
she too is a lyrical/literary "type") in Lennon's devastating composition
"Girl". I suspect both Lennon and McCartney were dealing with exactly
the same sort of dangerous liaison, but worked it through in distinctively
different music and lyrics. Both deal with women who are egocentric,
hurtful, and even overtly cruel to the male protagonist. Both women seem to
attempt to manipulate their respective gentlemen (in "Girl" she "promises
the earth", probably pleadingly...and certainly insincerely; in "For No
One" even her tears are empty, all for show). Both exhibit an explicit
need to grind their men down ("She acts as if it's understood"/"You don't
believer her/When she says her love is dead....") And both lyrical women
are unutterably unforgettable to the men whom they have wounded.
> My own rhetorical final
Part of her manipulative plan, I suppose? Clearly the protagonist
of "For No One" feels the tears should be traceable to some event,
some emotion, yet he suggests that they're "for no one"---not for the
men in her past ("...long ago/She knew someone, but now he's gone..."),
nor for him, who patiently waits at home while she seeks her pleasure
elsewhere...nor are those tears ultimately for herself, except selfishly.
Of course the women in these two songs might have another story to tell
(did "Girl" hide the story of a woman seeking her independence from
a man of limited vision, who underappreciated her range? Did the
woman in "For No One" have her own involved tale about being kept away
from the things that she loved?) But we can't travel beyond the bounds
defined by the songwriters, who have told us what they think is most
important---and most eloquent---about their suffering.
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 14 10:07:41 CST 1995
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(Paul S. Bodine) writes:
>With all due respect I think it is "interpretationally" blind to ignore
Not at all. But I think you're selling the song short if you interpret
*only* as far as some specific act of pleasure. It's not just about some
girl giving him one thing he wants---whatever it is (and *whatever* it
is, it's definitely not derivable from the lyrics)---but the words
indicate a more long-term reciprocation is intended. Maybe the act
in question is a symbol for some greater capitulation, but clearly
the protagonist has been gearing up for some showdown for some time---
some confrontational plea that would require the lady to make an
immediate declaration of her intentions. We already know how besotted
he is by her.
He's so far been timid to excess, with minimal (but on-going, we should
note) nagging ("Why do I always have to say, love"; "It's so hard to
reason with you")---note the semantic markers of continuation and
progression, suggesting that this is a long-standing problem. Poor
fellow. No wonder he doesn't want to sound like a constant whiner ("I
("I don't want to start complaining"), but obviously he's had it with
carrying the entire romantic burden himself ("I do all the pleasing
with you"---again, note the non-specific timeframe of the sentence
structure) for a girl who will "never even try"---i.e., never even
entertain the notion that she needs to give as well as get.
Frankly, a guy who just wants one specific act, IMHO, won't use an
image as stark as that from the middle-eight: "...there's always
rain in my heart". Hey, that's serious! It's not just cloudy; there's
a deluge of pain in his soul. He's bedeviled by her reluctant love
no matter where he goes, not matter what else happens. And you think
this is a chap whose only interest is in sexual variation? You might as
well say that "Casablanca" is just another film about love gone aground.
So it had...but that's not the denouement, and that's not the main wonder
of Rick and Ilsa.
I'm amazed once more to see something in this song I'd never noticed
before (and I must've gone through thousands of listenings by now): the
woman he sings to is an early image of a recurring character in Lennon's
work. We know her well, almost as well as he does: the girl who keeps
her emotions distant ("PPM"), who abandons him at parties ("I Don't
Want to Spoil the Party"), who leaves him cold ("You've Got to Hide
Your Love Away", "I'm A Loser"), who bedazzles his heart but withholds
her love ("Norwegian Wood"), who publicly makes him seem the fool
("I'll Cry Instead", "Girl"). She's the woman he can't catch, the
lover he can't touch...and she's been the subject of his songs since
the beginning.
But in "Please Please Me" he's still the innocent partner who hopes
for, expects, anticipates her surrender. Hence the soaring harmonic
entreaties: desire is all, love heals all pain, and these two shall
mend their ways and bridge their erstwhile distance. How they'll do
it is extra-lyrical; it lies beyond explicit words. I'll grant you that
passion will be its carrier...but to suggest that there's only one
avenue towards its realization makes the whole song trivial, to my
mind. And the theme of this song is no mere schoolboy ribaldry.
"Please Please Me", one of the Beatles' earliest masterpieces, is
also the obverse of their *last* message to us all. When they finally
reach that elusive state of satori, love's equation is in harmonious
balance: love made equals love taken. In "Please Please Me", that's
all this young man wants. What a simple thing to ask...but how difficult
to find the partner with whom to solve that elusive sum!
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> glimpse though the aperture of Paul's soulful heart, as though it had
> been dilated against his will by hypnosis or drug.
> preference, no less strong suit. Yet, we see here how much the poor
> fellow must have hurt for Ms. Jane Asher.
> question is what, why, and wherefore, in the final lyrics, are these
> tears that *she* cries for 'no one'? Wishful thinking, or mature,
> ironic insight?
"I guess by now you've got the gist".
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>the insistent sexual tone of Lennon's "come on!, come on!, come on" in Please
>please Me. Granted, the words on paper could mean anything but the song's
>delivery tends to narrow the number of possible meanings. (Are we forgetting
>the sexual roots of rock 'n roll?) . . .
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