The rec.music.beatles.moderated charter
From bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!bounce-back Thu Oct 31 09:08:56 CST 1996 Article: 9103 of news.announce.newgroups Path: bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!bounce-back From: dave@dogwood.com (Dave Cornejo) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.rock-n-roll.oldies,rec.music.beatles,rec.music.misc Subject: RESULT: rec.music.beatles.{info,moderated} moderated both pass Supersedes: <845904770.22286@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:57:21 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 506 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <846773823.849@uunet.uu.net> References: <844885788.24193@uunet.uu.net> <845904770.22286@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.music.beatles.info Xref: bcm.tmc.edu news.announce.newgroups:9103 news.groups:232831 alt.rock-n-roll.oldies:20197 rec.music.beatles:200410 rec.music.misc:193081 RESULT moderated group rec.music.beatles.info passes 258:34 moderated group rec.music.beatles.moderated passes 270:45 Yes No | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group ---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | ------------------------------------------- 258 34 | Yes Yes | Yes | rec.music.beatles.info 270 45 | Yes Yes | Yes | rec.music.beatles.moderated 5 invalid ballots A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.music.beatles.info Latest press notes about the Beatles. (Moderated) rec.music.beatles.moderated Fab Four analytical & investigative articles. (Moderated) Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Oct 1996. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: D. L. MacLaughlanProponent: Maurizio Codogno Proponent: Edward S. Chen Proponent: Stephen D. Carter Proponent: Joseph Brennan Proponent: Bruce Dumes Proponent: Allan Kozinn Proponent: Neal Katz Mentor: Johnathan Grobe Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: rec.music.beatles.info With the release of archival music and documentaries on the Beatles, plus a resurgence of interest in their music, interaction in rec.music.beatles increased to often-unmanageable levels (300+ posts per day). Readers using limited ISP resources can be overwhelmed when postings reach this level. Finding concrete information amidst the plethora of posts is not merely daunting...it can be an unmanageable task. Following the lead of other newsgroups in similar situations, it's been proposed that two new moderated groups be added to the rec.music.beatles hierarchy: rec.music.beatles.info, for brief press releases and news; and rec.music.beatles.moderated, for more in-depth investigation and discussion. Rec.music.beatles itself would remain intact and unchanged. There is a long-standing Usenet precedent for a 1 --> 3 evolution from one original newsgroup to the "triplex" format, and this proposal is based on that structure. Also, for the ease of those whose providers do not add in new rec* newsgroups and for those whose costs would increase to download multiple groups, all postings published in the moderated groups would be crossposted to rec.music.beatles. RATIONALE: rec.music.beatles.moderated With the release of archival music and documentaries on the Beatles, plus a resurgence of interest in their music, interaction in rec.music.beatles increased to often-unmanageable levels (300+ posts per day). Readers using limited ISP resources can be overwhelmed when postings reach this level. Finding concrete information amidst the plethora of posts is not merely daunting...it can be an unmanageable task. Following the lead of other newsgroups in similar situations, it's been proposed that two new moderated groups be added to the rec.music.beatles hierarchy: rec.music.beatles.info, for brief press releases and news; and rec.music.beatles.moderated, for more in-depth investigation and discussion. Rec.music.beatles itself would remain intact and unchanged. There is a long-standing Usenet precedent for a 1 --> 3 evolution from one original newsgroup to the "triplex" format, and this proposal is based on that structure. Also, for the ease of those whose providers do not add in new rec* newsgroups and for those whose costs would increase to download multiple groups, all postings published in the moderated groups would be crossposted to rec.music.beatles. CHARTER: rec.music.beatles.info Rec.music.beatles.info is a moderated group of low traffic, carrying press reports and news releases relating to the Beatles' music and the artists' lives. Information about new audio and video releases, as well as book and article publication, will be found here. Articles posted to rec.music.beatles.info will be automatically crossposted to rec.music.beatles (unmoderated) for discussion. Moderation policy: This group will be moderated by committee. Articles rejected from this forum will be returned to the writer with suggestions to submit to rec.music.beatles.moderated (if appropriate) or to rec.music.beatles. END CHARTER. CHARTER: rec.music.beatles.moderated Rec.music.beatles.moderated is a group for in-depth investigative and analytical exploration of the Fabs' music and cultural environment. New or amended answers which may become incorporated into FAQs will be published here, as well as reviews and critiques about the Beatles, their work, and their lives. Also included will be concert and musical reviews. Articles posted to rec.music.beatles.moderated will automatically be crossposted to rec.music.beatles. Articles rejected from rec.music.beatles.moderated will be returned to the writer with suggestions for a more appropriate forum. Moderation policy: This group will be moderated by committee. Articles accepted for this forum will also be crossposted to rec.music.beatles. Posters will be notified of this fact, and allowed to withdraw their submissions if they do not agree with this policy. To increase the uniqueness of this group, and decrease administrative hassles, all articles crossposted by the user will be automatically rejected. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.music.beatles.info Moderator: Maurizio Codogno Moderator: "Edward S. Chen" Moderator: "D. L. MacLaughlan" Moderator: Neal Katz Moderator: Bruce Dumes Administrative contact address: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu Article submission address: rmb-info@seltaeb.ghgcorp.com END MODERATOR INFO. MODERATOR INFO: rec.music.beatles.moderated Moderator: Maurizio Codogno Moderator: "Edward S. Chen" Moderator: "D. L. MacLaughlan" Moderator: Neal Katz Moderator: Bruce Dumes Administrative contact address: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu Article submission address: rmb-moderated@seltaeb.ghgcorp.com END MODERATOR INFO. DISTRIBUTION: This CFV has been cross-posted to: alt.rock-n-roll.oldies rec.music.beatles rec.music.info rec.music.misc rec.music.beatles.{info,moderated} Final Voter list rec.music.beatles.moderated ----+ rec.music.beatles.info ---+| || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- enigma@southcom.com.au Mark Jeffery YY ajw01@uow.edu.au Andrew John Walker YY jhenry@pcug.org.au Y- mjj@bain.oz.au Matthew Jackson YY hw55859@vub.ac.be Kees van de Wetering Y- vges@belspo.be YY r_della@alcor.concordia.ca Rob YY istrung@astral.magic.ca Ian Strung NN rags@triples.math.mcgill.ca Robert A. G. 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